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You're Getting Paid Exactly What You're Worth | S2S 549

podcast July 9, 2026


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You’re getting paid exactly what you’re worth. Not what you think you deserve. Not based on your degrees, your loyalty, or how hard you work. You’re getting paid exactly what you believe about yourself. And until you deal with that, nothing changes.

This week the crew breaks down why most people resist coaching even when they’re losing. ET opens up about why he had his kids leave his company to go work under someone else. Not because he didn’t want them around, but because he refused to insulate them from the growth they needed. Karl gets transparent about working out with a trainer who pushed him 14 more reps than he thought he had left, just by watching his muscle instead of listening to his excuses. Jemal brings the NBA Finals breakdown and why the Spurs lost a 29 point lead in the second half. Not because they weren’t talented, but because they didn’t have sustainable systems. And CJ delivers the truth about Kobe and Mike: 11 championships between them, zero without Phil Jackson.

They also unpack why people follow relationships instead of truth. Why your grandma’s way of doing things might not be God’s way. Why Diddy told ET at 16 that she wasn’t trying to win mother of the year, and how that one conversation set him free from trying to be everything to everybody. And why some of you are 60 years old still struggling with the same issues you had at 30 because you never submitted to coaching.

The crew gets real about marriage, parenting, and why CJ and Candace went to Australia when their daughter was five months old. Not because they’re bad parents, but because coaching taught them that a strong marriage creates the foundation for strong kids. They break down why ET got two kids in 14 years with zero accidents, and why that’s not luck, it’s coaching. And why Jemal told people in his circle they can’t be around him without owning real estate.

This episode will challenge everything you think about accountability, growth, and what it really takes to win. Because you can have all the talent in the world, but without the right coach, you’re the Spurs blowing a 29 point lead. You’re Kobe and Mike with zero rings. Stop resisting the coaching that’s trying to save your life. You don’t need more information. You need to apply what you already know. And if you’re getting paid what you’re worth right now and you don’t like it, the problem isn’t the market. The problem is you.

CHAPTERS

Chapters

  • 00:00:00 Opening: Who Not How – The Tyranny of Trying to Figure Everything Out
  • 00:00:59 Welcome and the Age Realization: When You’re Older Than Everyone
  • 00:06:37 The NBA Finals Lesson: How the Spurs Lost a 29-Point Lead
  • 00:13:50 Zero Championships Without Phil Jackson: Why You Need Elite Coaching
  • 00:15:04 Marriage Coaching Saved My Life: Chuck, Moni, Ian and Dede’s Impact
  • 00:22:53 The Coaching Tree: How Great Coaches Create Great Coaches
  • 00:23:33 Australia at Five Months: Why We Left Our Baby for Two Weeks
  • 00:19:17 God, Marriage, Kids: The Order That Saves Your Family
  • 00:19:57 Separate the Piano From the Person: Stop Taking Feedback Personally
  • 00:20:53 F Them Kids: Dede’s Line That Changed ET’s Parenting
  • 00:22:11 Mike Brown vs Phil Jackson: Why Experience and Coaching Matters
  • 00:36:06 Two Kids in 14 Years: The Power of Intentional Family Planning
  • 00:27:28 Relationship Over Truth: Why You Follow Your Grandma Instead of God
  • 00:27:58 Pastor Willis Spoke My Vision Before I Had One
  • 00:46:07 Character Development Boot Camp: Why ET Made Us Pray All Day
  • 00:55:45 You’re Getting Paid Exactly What You’re Worth Right Now
  • 00:53:59 The Muscle Twitch Story: How Tommy Got 14 More Reps Out of CJ
  • 00:56:37 Maul the Builder: He Doesn’t Just Build Houses, He Builds People
  • 00:51:52 The 12-Year Overnight Success: Maul’s House Goes Viral Now
  • 00:59:31 Closing: Get in the Mastermind and Stop Making Excuses

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The S2S podcast is hosted by Eric Thomas, Karl Phillips, the Bajan Sensation, CJ Quinney, and Jemal King. Four friends, four journeys, one mission, real conversations on faith, family, business, and the work it takes to build a life that lasts. New episodes every Thursday.

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