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That’s Fat Girl Shit: Motivation and Destruction Are Strange Bed Fellows with Kelly Morgan

podcast September 11, 2025


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Summary
In this engaging conversation, the speakers explore the journey of writing and publishing, particularly focusing on the experiences of Black women in the industry. They discuss the challenges of self-publishing, the importance of community and collaboration, and the healing power of storytelling. The conversation emphasizes the need for authenticity, resilience in the face of rejection, and the significance of mental health in the creative process. In this engaging conversation, the speakers explore the intricacies of writing, publishing, and personal growth. They discuss the significance of naming characters, the challenges of concluding a story, and the importance of living in the present. The dialogue also delves into the metaphor of gardening as a representation of growth, the empowerment of taking control of book sales, and the need for authenticity in marketing. Additionally, they emphasize the value of genuine connections over social media presence and the therapeutic role of writing and poetry in healing.
Keywords

writing, publishing, community, collaboration, black women, self-publishing, mental health, personal growth, indie authors, storytelling, writing, publishing, resilience, creativity, community, authenticity, self-discovery, gardening, mental health, indie authors
Takeaways
  • The journey of writing is often filled with challenges and setbacks.
  • Community and collaboration are essential for success in the publishing industry.
  • Self-publishing can empower authors to take control of their work.
  • Mental health and healing are ongoing processes that require daily attention.
  • Authenticity in storytelling resonates with readers and creates connection.
  • Rejection in the publishing world is common and should be viewed as redirection.
  • Affirmations and positive self-talk can significantly impact mental well-being.
  • Building a supportive network can help underrepresented voices be heard.
  • The importance of setting boundaries in creative work to avoid burnout.
  • Writing can serve as a therapeutic outlet for personal experiences. Naming characters gives them identity and depth.
  • Ending a story can be challenging and emotional.
  • Life is often about the journey, not just the destination.
  • Living in the present is crucial for happiness.
  • Detaching from current reality can help in creating new narratives.
  • Gardening symbolizes patience and growth in life.
  • Taking control of book sales empowers authors.
  • Social media is a tool, not the only way to connect.
  • Authenticity in marketing is essential for authors.
  • Building genuine connections is more valuable than social media presence.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
09:03 The Journey of Writing and Publishing
21:03 The Importance of Community and Collaboration
32:12 Healing and Personal Growth
49:22 The Power of Naming Characters
50:22 Struggles with Ending a Story
52:16 The Middle of the Journey
53:13 Living in the Present Moment
53:57 Detaching from Reality to Create
55:40 Gardening as a Metaphor for Growth
56:41 Taking Control of Book Sales
57:53 Facing Fears in Publishing
58:50 The Challenge of Social Media
01:00:51 Finding Authenticity in Marketing
01:02:32 Building Connections Beyond Social Media
01:04:27 The Importance of Community
01:06:31 Living Authentically
01:07:47 The Vision for a Simpler Life
01:09:30 The Need for Genuine Connections
01:11:08 Writing as a Therapeutic Outlet
01:13:44 The Role of Poetry in Healing
01:16:46 Creating Children’s Literature
01:19:26 The Journey of Self-Discovery
01:21:30 Rapid Fire Questions
01:30:49 The Audacity of Game Changers
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