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#ThatBlackCouple Ep 36 – Black Women and the Downside of Being the First

podcast April 27, 2022


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In the first segment, Jenn and Daren celebrate the landmark confirmation of Ketanji Brown Jackson to the U.S. Supreme Court and the burden that she will need to bear as a result.

In the second segment, they discuss why celebrating “firsts” for Black people can be complex and problematic and ask if the “race for firsts” is even a good thing for Black people.

In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on the conversation and explain why we need to shift the conversation to interrogate what we mean by a “win”, divorcing value from white-centered ideals to defining and centering independent Black excellence.

Reference Material:
* “The History Lesson About Black Women That You Never Got” – Jenn M. Jackson https://www.teenvogue.com/story/the-history-lesson-about-black-women-that-you-never-got
* “I’ll be so proud when my daughter is president and runs a corrupt oligarchy” – Kiese Laymon – https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/22/daughter-us-president-corrupt-oligarchy
* Viola Davis Gives Powerful Speech About Diversity and Opportunity | Emmys 2015 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSpQfvd_zkE&ab_channel=TelevisionAcademy

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Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

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