Should’ve Stayed in the Group Chat with Dr. Chiyah A. Lawrence

This week, Kelli, Kendra, and our honorary third host (and original podcast co-founder) Dr. Chiyah A. Lawrence bring the group chat back to life. What starts as catching up turns into a deep dive on everything from pop culture dust-ups to church politics to the state of our digital lives.

We talk Tabitha Brown and the backlash against her recent comments, the controversy around Beyoncé’s Cécred beauty line, and the rise of “nice-nasty” as a cultural critique. From there, the conversation widens: moral injury in the Black church, the impact of algorithms on our rage, Eve redefining “soft life,” and what it means to feel both inside and outside of community spaces.

As always, the group chat keeps it real — funny, sharp, and vulnerable. Whether you came for hair product reviews or reflections on capitalism and faith, you’ll leave with a lot to think about.

Related Links:

1. Tabitha Brown’s Instagram Post – referenced by Dr. Chiyah and throughout the episode
2. Link to Lizzo NY Mag Instagram Post – referenced by Dr. Chiyah 
3. Sinead Bovell on Angie Martinez IRL Podcast – referenced by Kelli 
4. Eve on Angie Martinez IRL Podcast – referenced by Kelli 
5. Draw Me Close/Thy Will Be Done – Marvin Winans Live at Times Square Church – song referenced by Kendra

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This episode was produced and edited by Centering Equity Productions with the original theme song written and performed by Kendra Ross.

Dr. Kendra Janelle Ross is a tour de force in the worlds of music, education, community engagement, and technology, blending her passions to create inclusive spaces, equitable communities, and innovative cultural ecosystems. Dr. Ross's creative prowess culminated in her upcoming project, This Womanist’s Work, highlighting her commitment to amplifying female voices in the industry. Learn more about Kendra’s work here: https://www.kendraross.com 

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Kelli King-Jackson is a certified professional coach to Black women leading in white spaces. In addition to coaching, she works with organizations truly committed to justice for Black women by providing philanthropic advising, facilitation, and speaking services. Learn more about Kelli’s work here: https://www.iamkelli.com/

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