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Maybe These Systems Shouldn’t Exist – AI Researcher Dr. Timnit Gebru Asks the Questions Others Won’t – Part II

podcast July 9, 2025


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Welcome to B The Way Forward Interludes – a series of conversations that don’t necessarily fit in our regular season, but are just too good to not share.

Dr. Timnit Gebru is one of the leading voices in AI research calling for more responsible and inclusive AI systems.  Or, as she puts it – “a technological future that serves our communities instead of one that is used for surveillance, warfare, and the centralization of power by Silicon Valley.”  As the Founder and Executive Director of the Distributed Artificial Intelligence Research Institute (DAIR), Timnit isn’t just calling out the dangers of Big Tech’s approach to AI – she and her colleagues are working to forge new approaches and new ways to imagine what our future can look like. 

In part 2 of our conversation, Timnit shares why the “Distributed” aspect of DAIR is so important, the kinds of projects they undertake that could never be done within the halls of Big Tech or Academia, and why the current method of designing LLM’s flies in the face of core engineering principles.  

Plus, you all had a lot of questions about AI at our recent Responsible AI Forum by AnitaB.org – and Timnit has some answers for you.

For more, connect with Timnit

For more, check out Timnit and her work…

On Bluesky – @timnitgebru.bsky.social‬

On Mastodon – @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

On LinkedIn – /timnit-gebru-7b3b407

On X – @timnitGebru

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