From Excluded to Empowered: The Subversive Leader Movement with Dr. Chisolm

What if leadership didn’t require you to shrink, shift, or sacrifice who you are?

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Latisha Chisholm — researcher, social worker, and founder of Subversive Leader — to explore a bold reimagining of leadership development.

Through her groundbreaking work at the University of Pennsylvania, Dr. Chisholm developed Subversive Leadership: a framework rooted in disrupting cultural reproduction and empowering individuals to lead with authenticity, agency, and intention.

We unpack how traditional leadership models — despite being part of a multi-billion-dollar industry — often exclude the very people who could most benefit from them. From cost barriers to cultural misalignment, the system has long prioritized conformity over individuality.

That’s where Subversive Leader comes in.

Dr. Chisholm shares how her AI-powered platform, featuring "Zmara," an AI intelligent leadership coach, is designed to democratize access to leadership development. By centering lived experience, context, and community, the platform offers a radically different approach — one that meets people where they are and helps them grow without losing themselves.

This conversation is for anyone who has ever felt like leadership required them to become someone else — and is ready to challenge that narrative.

-The origin and meaning of Subversive Leadership

-What it means to disrupt cultural reproduction

-Why traditional leadership development models fall short

-The positive role of AI – artificial intelligence in expanding access to professional development coaching that was once beyond reach

-How to develop your leadership identity without losing authenticity

Dr. Latisha Chisholm is the founder of Subversive Leader and the creator of the Subversive Leadership framework, developed through her doctoral research at the University of Pennsylvania. Her work sits at the intersection of leadership, equity, and innovation, with a focus on expanding access to transformative leadership development.

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