Breaking Barriers & Unpacking Privilege Featuring Eileen Isola and Ryan Virden

Hosts Erik Fleming interviews Lieutenant Colonel Eileen Isola about her book “Necessary Turbulence,” which compiles fifty years of women’s experiences at the U.S. Air Force Academy, and Ryan Virden about “Breaking the Privilege Frame,” his call for white Americans to join racial justice work as a path to mutual healing and systemic change.

The episode explores military service, gender and racial barriers, the impact of wars and policy on institutions, and how storytelling and collective action can build a more just, connected America.