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Talking ‘Him,’ Biracial Identity, and Athleticism With Tyriq Withers! Plus, the Back-and-Forth With Stephen A. and Jimmy Kimmel’s Return. | Higher Learning | The Ringer

podcast September 26, 2025


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Rachel and Van start the show off by talking about Stephen A. Smith’s response to our comments last show before getting into the removal of ‘Fearless Debaters’ from TSU’s campus and Jimmy Kimmel’s successful return. Then, Tyriq Withers joins the show to talk about his new movie, ‘Him’; the different reactions to the film; the realism of the athleticism showcased in it; and biracial identity.

00:00 – Welcome!

07:29 – Stephen A.’s response to Higher Learning

32:32 – Pandering to Black women

37:47 – ‘Fearless Debaters’ removed from TSU’s campus

48:13 – Jimmy Kimmel’s return

1:10:03 – The missing PS5

1:16:38 – Kamala Harris’s appearance on ‘The Rachel Maddow Show’

1:20:52 – Tyriq Withers joins us!

1:52:25 – Thanks for watching!

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guest: Tyriq Withers

Producers: Donnie Beacham and Ashleigh Smith

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas

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