Lewis Howes on athlete mindset, conversation with Kobe Bryant, ego vs masculinity, overcoming traumas, accountability between Ryan, Channing and Fred as the guys share their own struggles

“Someone watching this may say what a little Bi*%h…and that’s fine, a bad day for the ego is a good day for the soul.”

Today’s conversation is a little different and by different we mean even better. So often we sit with our guests who open up, share their experiences for us all to take something away from it…but today, we shed our armor and allow our vulnerable sides to come through as we listen, learn and create a space for others like ourselves to be vulnerable too. Many times as men, especially athletes, we are instilled with a mentality that toughness means never showing emotion, fear or weakness. And while that can be true when playing a sport, working towards a milestone or competing for championships, it’s not always the best approach with our personal and everyday lives. 

To help guide this discussion, Ryan, Channing and Fred sit down with 2x New York Times bestselling author and top podcast host of The School of Greatness, Lewis Howes, also a former two-sport All-American athlete, as he shares the different seasons of his life, lessons learned along the way and how he pivoted from darker times to the top of podcast and book charts. But how did he get there? How did he convert his athlete mentality into motivation and transition fears into finding success in unlikely areas? What wisdom can he share with Pivot listeners and how can his words help us? Intrigued from the start….Ryan, Channing and Fred dive into a life changing conversation they never knew they needed to have. 

With over 1700 episodes and impactful conversations with elite athletes, entertainers, entrepreneurs and health and wellness experts, Lewis has set the tone in this space creating awareness, implementing techniques and he shares how his time spent with Kobe Bryant was the most impactful experience which helped shape his purpose in podcasting. Everybody experiences trauma, but not everybody learns to respond to hard experiences with a growth mindset. From sexual abuse growing up to a brother in prison, parents divorcing and a father who was in a coma for months after a serious car accident, Lewis has gone on a mission to share his story, help others deal with their traumas while exploring fears, masculinity, relationships and understanding emotions. At the end of the day, it’s ok not to be ok and be open on our feelings, thoughts and struggles. 

Being honest, the four men acknowledge that conversations like these don’t happen enough (filmed or not filmed) and towards the end of the episode, Lewis takes a moment to ask Ryan, Channing and Fred about themselves and the bond each has with one another while encouraging each other to share what they see as strengths and weaknesses in their everyday lives. The three guys have a tough conversation and hold each other accountable for things they see and share their hopes for one another while dealing with some tough emotions and real-life moments. Extremely powerful as each opens up and we are drawn in as if we are a part of the conversation. “It’s a lot to unpack…this is deep.” Ryan Clark 

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