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Talking Reparations and “Black Boy Tragic” With Governor Wes Moore! Plus, the Diddy Documentary and BD Wong’s Apology Rating. | Higher Learning | The Ringer

podcast December 5, 2025


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Rachel and Van start the show by talking about podcasters like Joe Rogan and his possible intentions with those he interviews. Then, they discuss Governor Josh Shapiro’s opinions on Kamala Harris’s book and react to both the new four-part Netflix documentary on Diddy and the response to it from Diddy’s team. Rachel also gives an apology rating to BD Wong. Later, they are joined by Governor Wes Moore to talk about reparations, child poverty, and direct conversations with Trump. 

00:00 – Welcome!

04:15 – Joe Rogan and intentions

09:57 – Governor Shapiro comments on Kamala Harris

17:43 – Netflix releases a four-part Diddy documentary

28:24- Pharrell addresses recent political comments

48:39 – BD Wong apologizes for racist joke

58:06- Governor Wes Moore joins us

2:00:57 – Thanks for watching!

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guest: Governor Wes Moore

Producers: Ashleigh Smith and Donnie Beacham

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas

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