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E129: Rev. DeVernon LeGrand

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This week Beth and Wendy discuss Reverend DeVernon “Doc” Le Grand and the Le Grand Family. LeGrand headed St. John’s Pentecostal Church of Our Lord in Brooklyn. He recruited many teenage “nuns” to solicit money for his church. He also sexually abused the “nuns”, fathered a bunch of children, and murdered an unknown number of people, including two wives, two teenaged girls, and two men.

We dive into the setting (13:36), the killers early life (27:35) and the timeline (31:52). Then we get into the investigation & arrest (49:20), “Where are they now?” (55:02) followed by our takeaways and what we think made the perp snap (1:00:23).

As usual we close out the show with some tips on how not to get murdered (1:06:12) and our shout outs (1:08:30).

Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time… look alive guys, it’s crazy out there!


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